remus, not all songs are to be treated as operatic in singing. i fthat would be so, wala ng variey and besides, this is not an opera piece and UPCC are not an opera chorus
whatevr it is, philippine m usic is not about bisaya or ilokano or kapampangan nowadays. it is centered now on indigenous music like music from the uplamds. why dont you take philippine music at UP college of music so you could understand
sana operatic ang pag-awit..gone too far.
remus
I don't think that one is better than the other, just different. I just get angry when Tagalogs sell CDs called "The Best of OPM" or something akin and all of the osngs on the CD are Tagalog or they take Ang Pasko Ay Sumapit or Sa Kabukiran, take it for themselves and pretend like we don't exist.
Groups have general traits because of whatever situation they're in, the environment they live in etc. Ex: Ilocanos are stereotyped as hard working because Nrthrn Luzon is situated right in the middle of the typhoon belt. it seems true because most of the Filipino in Toronto I know are Ilocano even tho there are only about 10mil of them. There are about 40mil Visayans but they are the most sparse.
I have alot of Tagalog and Ilocano friends who themselves say that Visayan music is very 'sweet'. I just tell them that my favourite Filipino music is old Visayan songs and on three separate occasions, by three different non-Visayans, I was told that Visayan songs are 'very sweet'. I'm just saying that there is generally more artistry to old Visayan songs than there is to songs like Dahil Sa Iyo and Kapantay Ay Langit.
I did say that I like Nicanor Abelardo and a few other Tagalog composers. But I think that Tagalog music is generally mathematical. I'm not saying that Tagalogs are less human for it. Tagalogs are generally more work-oriented than Visayans. While Visayans are very music and art oriented. This is why Visayans are stereotyped as being care-free and lazy.
i understand what you're saying. Yes it's not fair that the country is tagalog-centric, but is that a reason to bash the tagalogs? tagalog songs mathematical?... what's your point? does that mean tagalog music is bad and bisaya music is better? No phil. ethnic group is better than another... whether tagalog, bisaya, bicolano, etc.
I mean of you're going to be a prude about it you might as well say that Spanish Portuguese French Italian and Romanian are 'incorrect' Latin as they evolved from vulgar Latins that were formed from slangs and incorrect pronounciations of words.
Actually "Visayan" is the Hispanized version of "Bisaya". "Bisaya" is the original. You're right about "Filipino" as it was originally a Spanish term but most Filipino languages don't have "V" or "F". But an accent is an accent. Accents and incorrect intonantions, grammar, usage and spelling are what form new languages.
Even Dahil Sa Iyo is very mathematical.
Yes we are Pinoys too but my problem is that the Philippines is Tagalog-centric. Visayans Ilocanos Kampampangans etc. are treated as secondary. And it bothers me that they took our song but didn't give credit where it was given. There is a difference in the way Visayans and Tagalogs compose music. Generally that is; Jerry Brandy & Nicanor Abelardo and a few other Tagalog composers are very good. But really, compare Sa Kabukiran to Chitchiritchit and Leron Leron Sinta and Sinisinta Kita.
You're welcome. To everyone: Peace. Love. Music.
Pilipino po tayo kahit saang bansa man tayo magpunta o maging citizen. Sana maging masaya na lang tayo at tinatangkilik ang mga orihinal na komposisyon ng ating magigiting na kompositor. Funkypinksoul, thank you very much for the upload, I enjoyed it a lot.
i cant believe that youre making a big deal out of it. i think it's pointless since visayans are also pinoys.
I remember back in highschool .. I sang "Sa Kabukiran" for our section's buwan ng wika presentation.. My music teacher did Lilian Velez's original coloratura arrangement...
Who cares if it is Visaya or Tagalog. What matters are Fs and Vs not P nor B. Get it. Filipino not pilipino. Visaya not Bisaya.
I respect your views on that, but are we not all Filipinos? :-)
I hate it when Tagalogs take credit for Visayan songs like Sa Kabukiran. Tagalog songs are mathematical and most of them follow the same pattern. Visayan songs are organic and more expressive (like Sa Kabukiran). The original Cebuano composer and lyricist of Sa Kabukiran is Manuel Velez who also composed another song Tagalogs take credit for: Ako'y Kampopot.
